Short Method for Input Output Problems
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I WAS ASKED BY VARIOUS STUDENTS TO PROVIDE SHORT METHODS TO SOLVE SOME PROBLEMS IN BANK EXAMS, SO HERE I START WITH MY FIRST POST OF SOLVING INPUT OUTPUT PROBLEMS
Consider the following problem
Input : Sale data 18 23 for 95 then 38
Step I : data sale 18 23 for 95 then 38
Step II : data 95 sale 18 23 for then 38
Step III : data 95 for sale 18 23 then 38
Step IV : data 95 for 38 sale 18 23 then
Step V : data 95 for 38 sale 23 18 then
Step VI : data 95 for 38 sale 23 then 18
And step VI is last step
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Now short approach to solve this is not to see whole pattern but directly see the last step. Generally it will arrange words according to dictionary in forward or reverse manner and digits also in ascending or descending form. It could be any pattern given by the examiner, but in almost all cases you will be able to figure out the pattern by watching the last step only
In this question we can see in last step that ENGLISH alphabets are in dictionary order starting from
A to Z and numbers are in descending order, so our half work is done… as we know the pattern of the arrangement i.e. first an english letter with higher order, then highest number, then english letter in ascending number, then number just less than highest number and so on…….
One more step is to see that words are arranged in each step by shifting or swaping
Shifting : shifting means tat desire numberor alphabet comes to its place and all the words and letters are shifted as it is after that word
For eg
data goat solo eat her zoo
now eat has to come before goat so we shift it as
data eat (goat solo her zoo) arranged as it is
Swapping : In this type one word is replaced by other one
For eg
Data goat solo eat her zoo
We swap it as
Data eat solo goat her zoo
(here eat and goat are interchanged)
Now as per the present scenario we mostly have shifting type of pattern and we have a short trick for it to find answers of question
If it is given in question that Second step of input is so and so find fifth step, so in these question instead of solving it completely, we can see that if given step is second step so AT LEAST two words are already arranged so look at the given stucture that if 2 or 3 or how many words are arranged after that instead of writing it step by step cut the words with PENCIL which are arranged and then cut the next word which should come next and increase the counter of the steps i.e. step 3 in your mind, then cut next word that should come in the arrangement and increase step counter. One thing that is to be noted that is you should not worry about the arrangement that should come after shifting because after cutting the word in the arrangement, the uncut words will always make correct pattern after shifting.
In some cases the required word or number which is to be arranged is first letter in the first letter of the resulting arrangement, in this case we will cut tha word or number but we will not increase the step counter as we do not have to shift it anywhere, it was already at its place
For eg
It is given that first step of the arrangement is
Data eat solo goat her zoo
Then according to the rule at least one word is already in its place i.e. data is in its correct place, now we check the next letter EAT, and we find that this too is on its correct place so 2 letters are already arranged
Data eat solo goat her zoo (Step I)
so we first cut these words and proceed forward to check out next letter in the arrangement, and we find that next letter should be GOAT, so we cut it and increase the step counter so it will be our Step II.
Data eat solo goat her zoo (Step II)
Then next word should be HER so we cut that letter and increase the counter by one and it becomes step number III
Data eat solo goat her zoo (Step III)
After step III we find our next letter of the arrangementwhich should be SOLO, so we will cut that letter BUT COUNTER FOR STEP NUMBER WILL NOT INCREASE because it is already in its place. So we are still on step III.
Data eat solo goat her zoo (Step III)
After this we will look out for next letter which is ZOO, so we will cut it and this time also we will not increase the step counter as it is also on its correct place.
Data eat solo goat her zoo (Step III)
* Generally there is a question in which it is asked that step III or any step of the arrangement is so and so, then he asks any of the previous steps than step III or whichever step is given, step I or step II in this case. In these question the answer will be CANNOT BE DETERMINED.
Explanation : For these type of question answer will be CBD as we can see in above example also that the word which is to be arranged can come from any where i.e. its position could be anywhere in the given pattern before actual arrangement, we can see that goat comes before solo in the above example after actual arrangement, but in the provided input it was after SOLO, so position of any word cannot be determined in previous step and hence we cannot find pattern of previous step.
I think i made myself very clear with this method. Still if any1 has any query or problem then he/she can ask anytime. One thing is for sure it will save lot of your time in reasoning section, so learn it and then practice and you will see the result soon.
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@Admin Thnx as lot, i was looking for dis
thanks a lot
@Admin i m getting confused at CANNOT DETERMINE situation in second last para do give a clear explanation there
@lucky,
i ve provided explaination for that question in the post, please check it out from there
@admin
thanks a lot its awesome
Expecting more tricks
dear admin..its god.but still i have confusion that in step III we didn’t change the step..u said it is there in its own place..but..SOLO word comes after HER..why its is not changed..can u explain me clearly for my doubt please..
@PRABHAS,
look in our own traditional way we have to arrange words in correct order after every step but in this method you see that in every step after cutting words the letters which are left uncut forms remaining pattern, as in step 3 data eat solo her are arranged and hence cut and solo and zoo are left in last positions automatically, so actually solo is after her, in normal manner people write
data eat goat her solo zoo
and to make it quick and time saving we can write
data eatsologoat herzooDear admin, plz publish a set of Q on circle arrangement of new pattern. It also became a headace 4 most of d candidates n plz suggest some tips to solve it. Thanks
@ admin
Thanq so much sir for the shortcut for this problematic time consuming section. I have a doubt regarding 2 questions One in which the in put is asked “i.e which of these will definitely b the input” most of the time the answer is CBD. will it b d same always??
Second Which of the following will be the last but one?? should the answer b the second last step?
@prathee,
yes in every case answer will be CBD
yes it means last but one
thanx
sir,please give some more tricks of non-verbal reasoning??????????
@ Admin,
Now the input output pattern comes in different way.plz tell me how to solve that I/O in easy way
@princess,
actually you cant say that it comes in different pattern, you can solve that too with same procedure, and the pattern will re,main same as there could be 3 – 4 possible combinations which they can give in I/O questions
hello sir itz me gaurav…..
some time i found d I/O as mixture of word n number….bt continuing step tat converted in number nly…..so cn eu plz put dez typ of solve exmple by full declareation…….
thnkz sir..
guysssssssssssssssssssss…………
its simple….one
just watch step vi….
u will identify easily…
i want know the tricks of blood relation….
i know tricks about math operation,round table……but i want know about blood relation…
@saran ,,if u know the tricks of blood relation than share it i find it difficult
@sam iam saying that i want know trickss in blood relation???????????????
dear admin .. provide some tricks on blood relations sothat we can solve it easily ..secondly i want to know abt the trick if any how to solve this type of questions like as under
how many such digits are there in the number 83467219 each of which is as far away from the begining of the numbers as when the digits are arranged in ascending order with in the number????? sir plz help me how to solve this type of question in a short time
write all the no:s appearing in ascending order above the same no:(on top of each digits)
Check which all numbers are same on top and bottom lines.
Count it and thts ur required answer
thanx a lot admin for the input out put trick now i can solve easily these questionsthanx a lot disscuss some blood relation tricks if any
admin sir thanks a lot…earlier i found it vry difficult to solve dis prob but i think it is so easy n time saving…i hav 1 doubt sir…wen do we swap ???n wen do we shift….is it after looking at pattern….????1 thing more sir i feel difficulty in fig related problems….pls help…they giv 10 to 15 prob on fig related problems…..pls help sir asap….thanks
hi frd preperaring for dena bank po , may u share ur exp.
hi…. frd have u any exp about icici bank po aptitude question pattern
Dear Manisha,
ICICI PO exam is quite easier than even clerical exams of PSU banks, so u need not worry
Hi i had a doubt about doing
Statement and assumption question
can anyone help me how to clear it in easy way
Hello,everyone i have a problem in non- verbal.plz provide me short cut in this part.plz…
according to me there is no short cut but you have to practice a lot which will make you to think short cut automatically..
it is better not to do this input and output step by step..
just go on numbering the words in the given input try this method .. its more easy and fast then other method.. but it is useful for some type of particular questions only..like the given example of
sale data 18 23 for 95 then 38
….
thank you
Admin i am getting confused, please help me
please send u r mail to me
hi, friends
I am preparing PNB MT, please help me how I go through?
thanx
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thanks a lot…very helpful..
Hi
i need how to answer the problem which is statement and assumptions model please explain how to answer this
Hi,
can anyone explain me how to decide a strong & weak argument.
thankxxx its really saves time….
its really helping,,,thanku sir….
thanks……it wl b helpfl….
as u hav xpalaind shiftin cud u plz expalin sawpin also.i vl b gr8ful.
n also where in each step two things a changin dere position (nt swappin)
please send mail then send a explain notes
its nt new
den y dont u tell m how 2 do it.
admin,
can u provide sum practise questions of reasoning which r realyy tough
hi admin plz allhabad bank po ka reasoning ka first sum xpain kar do
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which link u r talkin about?
I am very happy to see this explanation but one thing i was looking for is the question related to relationship i.e. mother, father, brother etc so plz explain this as well. we will be more than happy to see so.
Hey Admin…..
In Input Output, Ques are based only on the above two methods like shifting and swapping or is there any other method tooo????????
this is really very helpful
kindly post few more questions along with ans. so that we can just conquer this topic
thankyou admin.!!!!!!!!!!!
thank so much
can any1 temme, in input/output questions if there is a question asking that if the input is so and so then how much step will be required to get the final output? plz temme how can i solve dis question???
for that question u have to make compelete input into output. then you would be able to tell how much step are required.
Sir the trick is excellent but sir can u please tell me how to solve this type of input-output question:
Input: 245, 316, 436, 519, 868, 710, 689
Step 1: 710, 316, 436, 519, 868, 245, 689
Step 2: 710, 316, 245, 519, 868, 436, 689
Step 3: 710, 316, 245, 436, 868, 519, 689
Step 4: 710, 316, 245, 436, 519, 868, 689
Step 4 is the last step for the given input
If the input is given as “655, 436, 764, 799, 977, 572, 333”, which of the following step will be “333, 436, 572, 655, 977, 764, 799”?
Have you got the answer for the same
Thanks buddy…i am very much deepressed by english language..i have completed alomost evrything but in grammer i lack every time…plz help me cwe is coming and i am preparing from last 1 yr…english is the main prob..plz help me …plz
nice one … thnkya for making it so simple..cheers to you ..
hi can anyone suggest me some books to refer banking awareness for common exam.
plz put more examples of input output questions………………..
jamj
:cheese1_ee:its a terrefic method given by u thanks buddy
this is not a tough question.
this type of questions can be solved very easily
if u clearly observe the sum of digits in the output step, its in ascending order ,also the steps follow swap method
hope this clue is enough
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hi @Admin
I am very thankful to you for this shortcuts about the Input/Output Problem.
I am Preparing for Central Bank IT officer.
Please suggest me some sections of Reasoning that will be important for that post/current po Pattern.
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thank you ….. I was clue less about this type prob .. finally I got the answer …
Hi sir need a quick suport on syloogism with 4/3 statments follwed by 4/3 conclusions.. actually it is irritating to solve them at times.
thnx a lot i was looking for this
THANKS FOR UR POST..
THIS POST HAS BEEN REALLY HELPFUL TO ME..
ONE KIND REQUEST..
U COULD HAVE SOLVED THIS PROBLEM ITSELF
INSTEAD OF ANOTHER EXAMPLE…
b4 diz post i hd got lil bit tricks or u can say dat incopmlt. info which is always dangerous ..nw, i ve got the complete tricks .nw, i can handle it …really,helpful info…thnx sir g
Thanks alot
wow! this was one of the best trick i have even seen or gone through, thank you
thanks a lot.. its nice..
Dear admin .. provide some tricks on blood relations sothat we can solve it easily
thanx admin..thanx alot
hey jo iss baar wale IBPS2012 evening paper mein aya tha uska solution mil sakta hai kya plzz that was really tough hawaa nikal gayi thi sala question solve nahi hua
IT IS EASY GET MARKS ON INPUT AND OUTPUT
hello plz give the syllogism shor trick….
too good…………quite helpful
plz help me to solve this..
12 where 82 33 great wall 49 just
so wot is d last step..
thanku sooooo much…
dear sir thanks for a helpful trick before that i faced problem in input/output
really its very helpful plz sir give some trick of non verbal(figure)
and also one i m little weak in math plz give some math trick
thanq again
i think this is very thirdclass method to solve input output problem here is so shortcut method than this method
thanks a lot sir